vsrinir
09-17 01:42 PM
After this step "it has to go to Rules Committee and await determinations by the Rules Committee as to how much debate will be allowed and whether floor amendments will be allowed, and if so , how many.
Then both house and senate has to vote on this bill ( if Senate have already one similar to this)
If it passed in both congress then it will go for President signature I guess.
TIME IS TOOO SHORT ...I DONT KNOW HOW?
I PRAYING GOD ONLY
If today its approved in the house..we are done..it goes the Prez for signing and we all add another card to our wallets:o
Then both house and senate has to vote on this bill ( if Senate have already one similar to this)
If it passed in both congress then it will go for President signature I guess.
TIME IS TOOO SHORT ...I DONT KNOW HOW?
I PRAYING GOD ONLY
If today its approved in the house..we are done..it goes the Prez for signing and we all add another card to our wallets:o
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JazzByTheBay
12-13 08:57 PM
And I don't blame you for thinking that way. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and stating your new (modified) stand on this issue. :)
cheers!
jazz
I saw the poll in the morning and voted FOR making this a paid site, but going through the discussions and a little bit of soul searching (slow day at work :p) i am a bit wary about making it a paid site now.
As much as i would like to see the riff-raff (pardon the expression) go away, maybe we should be more inclusive then exclusive (?). Not everyone is an early adoptor, it took me a while to contribute as well, but i did eventually turn around and contributed the lil bit i could.
Thats just my take, and excuse the rather altruistic title of my post.
cheers!
jazz
I saw the poll in the morning and voted FOR making this a paid site, but going through the discussions and a little bit of soul searching (slow day at work :p) i am a bit wary about making it a paid site now.
As much as i would like to see the riff-raff (pardon the expression) go away, maybe we should be more inclusive then exclusive (?). Not everyone is an early adoptor, it took me a while to contribute as well, but i did eventually turn around and contributed the lil bit i could.
Thats just my take, and excuse the rather altruistic title of my post.
vishal
06-14 10:51 AM
Hi AK27,
Can i know why you were called for personal interview. Is your I-485 Based on future Employment or did u have an Arrest record. If You have a record it might take a while to get your back ground check.
Can i know why you were called for personal interview. Is your I-485 Based on future Employment or did u have an Arrest record. If You have a record it might take a while to get your back ground check.
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anzerraja
07-19 08:46 PM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman's expenses.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
I know Aman has made a no. of trips to DC & these are not cheap.
Let us all contribute to pay back all his trips .
I am serious about it as people have no idea what people like Aman & others have done / sacrificed. If fact, we should authorize the Money Manager of IV to immediately release the entire amount Aman & others have spent since 19th December 2005.
I am sure IV must have funds to handle this... if not, atleast start a part payment each month immediately
I do not know, what is IV's internal procedure for these situations.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
I know Aman has made a no. of trips to DC & these are not cheap.
Let us all contribute to pay back all his trips .
I am serious about it as people have no idea what people like Aman & others have done / sacrificed. If fact, we should authorize the Money Manager of IV to immediately release the entire amount Aman & others have spent since 19th December 2005.
I am sure IV must have funds to handle this... if not, atleast start a part payment each month immediately
I do not know, what is IV's internal procedure for these situations.
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ak_2006
07-16 12:42 PM
I signed it
Libra
07-18 10:30 AM
I would say, we should take the web fax created by numberUSA and answer each and every point of it in red and bold and then fax to all senetors. Some senetors who are neutral on legal immigration will know exactly whats going on with these anti-immigrants.
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gc_on_demand
06-11 08:57 AM
Folks
July bulletin is OUT and NO more significant movement. Donot hope for future bulletin . Please call Lawmakers ASAP. Unless we take action USCIS is not going to do anything. Situation can be worse once we head towards election season. Still we have 1-2 months to get things done or we will be waiting for years to get green card OR EAD ( For some folks ).
It is just 10-15 minutes need to spend to call. Let them know WHO WE ARE AND WHAT ARE OUR ISSUES .
I request all of you to call , if you have called then ask your friends and family members to call.
Now its time to act. If we dont take action CHC will not allow to move ahead our 3 bills.
CALL NOW .... and Spread this message to everyone.
July bulletin is OUT and NO more significant movement. Donot hope for future bulletin . Please call Lawmakers ASAP. Unless we take action USCIS is not going to do anything. Situation can be worse once we head towards election season. Still we have 1-2 months to get things done or we will be waiting for years to get green card OR EAD ( For some folks ).
It is just 10-15 minutes need to spend to call. Let them know WHO WE ARE AND WHAT ARE OUR ISSUES .
I request all of you to call , if you have called then ask your friends and family members to call.
Now its time to act. If we dont take action CHC will not allow to move ahead our 3 bills.
CALL NOW .... and Spread this message to everyone.
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vikram2101
08-22 03:24 PM
Most immigrants apply for citizenship in developed countries for the sheer luxury of visa free travel to most countries and to bring their spouse/families closer to them without any immigration hassles. It has got nothing to do with renouncing all the ties with their home countries.
I know a friend who recently became a Canadian citizen and he said that he was murmuring a Hindi film song when the Canadian national anthem was played during the oath ceremony. The only reason he immigrated to Canada was to get a Canadian passport so that he can work in US and travel around the world without visa hassles.
I also have a friend who�s a US citizen and he was able to get his newly wed wife into US in 3 months. He visits India regularly to take care of his property investments, watches cricket/desi movies, loves eating food at the road side eateries and by all means he�s still an Indian at heart.
Citizenship is like getting an unlimited credit our existing credit card (GC). The more the limit the more flexibility we get. So let�s avoid bringing patriotic fervor into such posts.
I like your response, really -- I think it's frank and hits upon what it means to be Indian at heart.
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
I know a friend who recently became a Canadian citizen and he said that he was murmuring a Hindi film song when the Canadian national anthem was played during the oath ceremony. The only reason he immigrated to Canada was to get a Canadian passport so that he can work in US and travel around the world without visa hassles.
I also have a friend who�s a US citizen and he was able to get his newly wed wife into US in 3 months. He visits India regularly to take care of his property investments, watches cricket/desi movies, loves eating food at the road side eateries and by all means he�s still an Indian at heart.
Citizenship is like getting an unlimited credit our existing credit card (GC). The more the limit the more flexibility we get. So let�s avoid bringing patriotic fervor into such posts.
I like your response, really -- I think it's frank and hits upon what it means to be Indian at heart.
BUT, when one makes a decision to immigrate - he/she's not just making that decision for himself - but also for his/her spawns and the future generations to come. Is it fair for us to rob them of (well, i know most american born desi kids don't care a rats ass about going/being in India) - what it feels to be an Indian at Heart? what it 'Really' feels like to be watching/talking cricket/movies on 'em gullies, what it's like to be eating gaadi chaat, what a festival should really feel/look like .. and a bunch of other stuff- -that happens only in India.
not trying to discount anyone's opinions .. it's just the internal dilemma that needs addressing
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nk2006
04-12 08:41 AM
Sending my contribution. Thanks everyone for the effort.
Sent emails to 180 people urging contribution and become members if they are not already. It seems most of members/contributors are people whose GC is stuck currently, why dont we try to tap other immigrants (people who got their GC's but have gone through this process and know what we are talking about). It could be difficult as it does not affect them anymore, but having support from these members might be more effective. From my conversations with many such people they are in-principle sympethetic to what we are doing (but I guess they forget the next moment). We should motivate them to contribute in some way (sending faxes/writing to employers/at least monetary donation). Just a thought.
Sent emails to 180 people urging contribution and become members if they are not already. It seems most of members/contributors are people whose GC is stuck currently, why dont we try to tap other immigrants (people who got their GC's but have gone through this process and know what we are talking about). It could be difficult as it does not affect them anymore, but having support from these members might be more effective. From my conversations with many such people they are in-principle sympethetic to what we are doing (but I guess they forget the next moment). We should motivate them to contribute in some way (sending faxes/writing to employers/at least monetary donation). Just a thought.
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anzerraja
07-19 06:16 PM
Sounds good.
Zooooom ?? Do you want to open the thread (please add the important points of the conversation going on this thread as your first message, so we can repeat that over and again for people who join later).
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
Zooooom ?? Do you want to open the thread (please add the important points of the conversation going on this thread as your first message, so we can repeat that over and again for people who join later).
Zoooom & Anzerraja:
The core membership may be modest and may not want to speak out much on this issue. It becomes our prerogative to drive this.
Lets do this. Zooom do you mind opening a separate thread, "Reimburse past expenses to Aman & other IV Core members" or something like that. Please post a message asking people to "pledge" an amount towards that effort. Can you two drive this effort. I am also available for assistance.
We will update members who pledge how to finalize their pledge by any of the following methods based on subsequent expert advice:
1) Should they contribute to IV directly
2) Send a personal check to Aman.
3) Other method like IV reimbursing Aman and others from the common donation corpus.
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franklin
07-12 11:21 AM
We should update the question in the poll and make it specific only for people who live in and around of bay area, else the 'no I cannot attend' will be from all IV members who have no way to attend since they dont live in the bay area.
At this point, I am assuming that everyone that said "no" its because they don't live nearby :)
At this point, I am assuming that everyone that said "no" its because they don't live nearby :)
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akp
05-25 01:53 PM
guys and gals,
Cool down. Remember we are foreigners in this country. We need this country more than they need us ( as they say, graveyards are full of indispensable people!). A country is not considered advanced by the cell phone models people use, but rather than how much food they produce, what is the standard of living, how many noble laureates it produces per year, etc.
Besides, in my 7-8 years living in this country, first as a student and then as H1 worker, never once have I felt being treated differently because I am a foreigner or look different.
Now compare that to living in Europe (you will be treated as dirt as soon as you enter airport), it is racist, living in past and full of bureaucracy.
As for India, mera bharat mahan, but I remember a time when I had to pay bribe on the train ticket counter to get a measly 2nd class sleeper ticket, or just to get a electric connection, would dare not get near a policeman, etc. etc.. The list is long and I suppose I everyone here knows what I am talking about.
So please ask for your rights but remember you are in their country, nobody forced you to come here, and beggars can't be choosers.
Not for very long. There are bigger, faster markets than US in the world.
A joke, right? Financially maybe, technologically never. Most European countries are far more technologically advanced than US. I'm sure Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore also are all more advanced than US.
For example, only US is still using paper checks to transfer money. Using coins to pay for a phone call in phone booth. Still has no control over who lives in the country, or who goes in and out. Still not using computers for processing immigration applications (Why do I have to send in the same papers 10 times, send in tax papers, give my background info, give fingerprint 10 times.... and this all on paper... come on it is 2007 not 1907). Still drive around in cars instead of having a good inter-city connectivity with trains. No high speed trains. Still likes to see rubber stamps on official papers and believes it has any kind of value.
And so on and on and on.... I could write a book why US is behind most civilized countries. But thats ok. US is what it is.
But the worrying part is; it is going to get even worse when they kick out all the H1B etc who are here legally and provide free knowledge. And instead keeping the uneducated mass of Mexicans or south americans who run across the border illegally and then given amnesty by some fool in Congress. Good luck with that project.
Not a country I want to live in or pay tax in.
Cool down. Remember we are foreigners in this country. We need this country more than they need us ( as they say, graveyards are full of indispensable people!). A country is not considered advanced by the cell phone models people use, but rather than how much food they produce, what is the standard of living, how many noble laureates it produces per year, etc.
Besides, in my 7-8 years living in this country, first as a student and then as H1 worker, never once have I felt being treated differently because I am a foreigner or look different.
Now compare that to living in Europe (you will be treated as dirt as soon as you enter airport), it is racist, living in past and full of bureaucracy.
As for India, mera bharat mahan, but I remember a time when I had to pay bribe on the train ticket counter to get a measly 2nd class sleeper ticket, or just to get a electric connection, would dare not get near a policeman, etc. etc.. The list is long and I suppose I everyone here knows what I am talking about.
So please ask for your rights but remember you are in their country, nobody forced you to come here, and beggars can't be choosers.
Not for very long. There are bigger, faster markets than US in the world.
A joke, right? Financially maybe, technologically never. Most European countries are far more technologically advanced than US. I'm sure Japan, Hong Kong, Singapore also are all more advanced than US.
For example, only US is still using paper checks to transfer money. Using coins to pay for a phone call in phone booth. Still has no control over who lives in the country, or who goes in and out. Still not using computers for processing immigration applications (Why do I have to send in the same papers 10 times, send in tax papers, give my background info, give fingerprint 10 times.... and this all on paper... come on it is 2007 not 1907). Still drive around in cars instead of having a good inter-city connectivity with trains. No high speed trains. Still likes to see rubber stamps on official papers and believes it has any kind of value.
And so on and on and on.... I could write a book why US is behind most civilized countries. But thats ok. US is what it is.
But the worrying part is; it is going to get even worse when they kick out all the H1B etc who are here legally and provide free knowledge. And instead keeping the uneducated mass of Mexicans or south americans who run across the border illegally and then given amnesty by some fool in Congress. Good luck with that project.
Not a country I want to live in or pay tax in.
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jthomas
12-03 03:39 PM
I don't think the legal immigrant community has a problem of contributing 20 dollars or 50 dollars to IV. We are sure we all can afford it. Then why do u think members are not contributing?
I think we need to start contribution setup from state level and then the total amount should be be given to the core. If certain state groups organize meetings, email call their members and ask every member for some contribution they will contribute.
The only way is to go approach each member, talk to them, answer their problems and ask for contributions.
this is just my idea. Maybe i am wrong....
I think we need to start contribution setup from state level and then the total amount should be be given to the core. If certain state groups organize meetings, email call their members and ask every member for some contribution they will contribute.
The only way is to go approach each member, talk to them, answer their problems and ask for contributions.
this is just my idea. Maybe i am wrong....
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Beemar
03-30 10:05 PM
Received one today.
Weirdest thing:
Person's 140 was revoked by employer;
person received notice of intent to deny. NOID clearly stated that 140 was revoked by employer then quoted ac21 law and said beneficiary may be eligible and to give job offer letter.
person responded with letter from new ac21 employer with perfectly matching job duties/descriptions.
uscis sent denial. Denial only stated that 140 was revoked and 140 immigrant petition is needed to get greencard.
Don't know if this is a new procedure that they are following the main law where a valied 140 is needed the whole time.
More likely cause is that the letter from the applicant notifying his new job never reached/registered in CIS systems.
Did the person send the letter in time? Was there any intermediate change in status between NOID and actual denial status? This is crucial to know before jumping to conclusions.
Weirdest thing:
Person's 140 was revoked by employer;
person received notice of intent to deny. NOID clearly stated that 140 was revoked by employer then quoted ac21 law and said beneficiary may be eligible and to give job offer letter.
person responded with letter from new ac21 employer with perfectly matching job duties/descriptions.
uscis sent denial. Denial only stated that 140 was revoked and 140 immigrant petition is needed to get greencard.
Don't know if this is a new procedure that they are following the main law where a valied 140 is needed the whole time.
More likely cause is that the letter from the applicant notifying his new job never reached/registered in CIS systems.
Did the person send the letter in time? Was there any intermediate change in status between NOID and actual denial status? This is crucial to know before jumping to conclusions.
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Macaca
12-17 02:24 PM
From Investing in America, Making Things Worse (http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB119449088264586132.html) By Sen. Chuck Grassley (R., Iowa) | Wall Street Journal, Nov 8, 2007
I'm startled to learn that The Wall Street Journal seriously believes that an investment in American students will make things worse for U.S. businesses ("The Grassley Visa Tax," editorial, Nov. 2).
Your editorial asserts that the number of foreign workers on H-1B visas is so minimal that we shouldn't care if Americans are in fact displaced. I challenge the Journal to wave their labor force figures in the face of one of the hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder. That's a smack in the face to the American worker and hardly an issue to take lightly.
I am committed to an effort to include additional H-1B reforms and increase the visa supply along with an increased investment to educate Americans. But, I strongly disagree that the only solution is to increase our reliance on foreign workers by raising the annual cap. Reforms to the program must be a top priority. Big business cannot continue to ignore the home-grown American talent who should be getting at least a good portion of these jobs.
From page 9 of Driving jobs and Innovation Offshore (http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf) The impact of high-skill Immigration Restrictions on America, National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP) Policy Brief, Dec 2007
The National Foundation for American Policy sent a letter to Senator Grassley�s office requesting a list of the names of �hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder.�
To date we have not received such a list from Senator Grassley�s office.
I'm startled to learn that The Wall Street Journal seriously believes that an investment in American students will make things worse for U.S. businesses ("The Grassley Visa Tax," editorial, Nov. 2).
Your editorial asserts that the number of foreign workers on H-1B visas is so minimal that we shouldn't care if Americans are in fact displaced. I challenge the Journal to wave their labor force figures in the face of one of the hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder. That's a smack in the face to the American worker and hardly an issue to take lightly.
I am committed to an effort to include additional H-1B reforms and increase the visa supply along with an increased investment to educate Americans. But, I strongly disagree that the only solution is to increase our reliance on foreign workers by raising the annual cap. Reforms to the program must be a top priority. Big business cannot continue to ignore the home-grown American talent who should be getting at least a good portion of these jobs.
From page 9 of Driving jobs and Innovation Offshore (http://www.nfap.com/pdf/071206study.pdf) The impact of high-skill Immigration Restrictions on America, National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP) Policy Brief, Dec 2007
The National Foundation for American Policy sent a letter to Senator Grassley�s office requesting a list of the names of �hi-tech workers who have had to train their own replacement who is an H-1B visa holder.�
To date we have not received such a list from Senator Grassley�s office.
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kevinkris
12-03 07:46 PM
I know we have set another reminder (with the 100's we already have), what is the biggest reason not to automate it ?
Every $ counts, those who plan to contribute less than 50 bucks a month, remember to set yourself a monthly reminder, your pay date will be a good date to pick.
Every $ counts, those who plan to contribute less than 50 bucks a month, remember to set yourself a monthly reminder, your pay date will be a good date to pick.
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krishnam70
07-17 05:53 PM
I don't know why but we tend to be satisfied with lsmall benefits...
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
I agree with your opinion however we might be in the minority here, fellow members(some of them) are just concerned about getting an EAD and AP. They do now know the issues we face after that. Every year renewals, associated risk of not getting AP in time to travel out and not to metion that fact that this will definitely add to the waiting period indefinitely again unless we get together and initiate a campaign for
1. Recapturing unused visa numbers from past years
2. Getting USCIS to treat Primary + Derivatives as one Visa number rather than individual.
any takers?
cheers - peace
I agree with you "something (EAD and AP) is better than nothing"
But i bet you ..you will find your self in the same situation of agony and endless waiting for the final Green card.
I bet most of the people don't use your ead and AP as it puts you in a gray "Adjustment of status". They are good to have though. But you will see...how painful it is to decide to use them or not..
What i want to say is that being able to apply for EAD and AP is not the end of the battle..you will be stuck in a depressing situation waiting for the final green card.How do i know? .. I went through it...waiting for GC for the past 4 years.
I dont know its FBI or its just the USCIS incompetence but waiting in the final stage is horrible. Every time you travel you are scared...AP as for as my lawyer goes IT does not guarantee 100% entry in to the country.
After you apply for AP its only 1 year H1 increments.
What i am saying why dont we try for the overall improvement of the GC processing. Why dont we be firm about not wasting the GC numbers and recapturing the unused numbers.
We had a small revolt (peaceful way) and its successful.We dont want to stop there.
LETS FIGHT FOR THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT OF THE GC PROCESSING
I hope you guys are with me..looking for your comments
I agree with your opinion however we might be in the minority here, fellow members(some of them) are just concerned about getting an EAD and AP. They do now know the issues we face after that. Every year renewals, associated risk of not getting AP in time to travel out and not to metion that fact that this will definitely add to the waiting period indefinitely again unless we get together and initiate a campaign for
1. Recapturing unused visa numbers from past years
2. Getting USCIS to treat Primary + Derivatives as one Visa number rather than individual.
any takers?
cheers - peace
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helix
04-20 04:08 PM
Just contributed through Paypal. I appreciate all your efforts immensely.
tikka
05-25 02:36 PM
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laborchic
12-09 05:33 PM
Bump Bump..
Folks dont let this thread die..
Moderators can we have link of this thread posted on the homepage????
Folks dont let this thread die..
Moderators can we have link of this thread posted on the homepage????
